![]() None of that was how they got into the business. government know? Was there a conspiracy? Or were these just patsies and front guys? None of that was about their personal relationship. I said, the "Rolling Stone" article was interesting but the "Rolling Stone" article comes from a place of political reporting, right? It's looking at what happened to them and saying, did the U.S. I think there was a little feeling of, why do you need to meet these people? Aren't you a writer and aren't you going to create this? We've got the "Rolling Stone" article. I think this is really so interesting because when I began the process, I said, I want to go out and meet these guys. How does somebody who's a 19-year-old kid, not just work the internet and get the contract, how does he actually pull it off? I thought audiences would also be really interested. I was also very interested in the procedural. So I wanted to be deeply true to their story. I was motivated to do this in large measure because I saw these guys, Efraim and David, as a real way to tell an accessible story - as a way into the story about the war, about the economics of war, about the gigantic military industrial business that rose up around the war. First of all, you have that responsibility. When you come to something that's a true story. The second answer to your question is, I think more than many studio writers, I'm very interested in finding the real story. You stopped for gas in Fallujah? We ended up getting chased. I was like, we're in Fallujah? You're kidding me. So the driver came out, screaming and yelling at me shoving me in the car telling me, go, go, go. I got out of the car and I ended up talking to these guys who turned out to be bad guys and I had no idea. I told him that we had stopped for gas in Fallujah and my guy disappeared and I thought he was giving me up to be kidnapped. He was very gracious about it and saying at some point, Stephen, I don't want to cannibalize your life, but it would be great if we could use that episode. Todd - from the beginning I think - probably intended and hoped that we would put that in there. I was like, what is a decoy car? He said, well if the bad guys chase you it's really important that the cars split up and you have a 50/50 shot of not getting caught by the bad guys. But you should really rent two because one needs to be the decoy car. There's a fixer in Amman, Jordan and you hire these GMC's and it's $1,500. And he called me back and said, so it turns out, you can't get on the plane because the Army has those seats and you can't get on the plane. So I called a buddy who was at "US News and World Report" and I said, so how do guys go into Baghdad. I'm not making enough money as a writer to pay my medical insurance. I thought about it and my career was absolutely nowhere and I was really at that breaking point where I was like, I've got to go back to producing or I have to do something else because I can't pay the bills. I was like, well why don't we go together and he was like, oh no I can't go. His attitude was, how dangerous can it be? You were in the army.
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